Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

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henryg
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:08 am

OK here's strange, or at least for me. If I allow SP & Firefox to be forced into my drop-rights sandbox they don't work together, BUT if I manually load then via right-click etc into the same sandbox they work fine. Reproducible.

Barb, is there something that's different about forced programs?
Henry

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by Barb@Invincea » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:23 am

Hi henryg,
https://www.sandboxie.com/ForceProcess
Note that the ForceProcess settings only apply to programs that start unsandboxed. If a program is specifically started in a sandbox, or started by a program that is already sandboxed, then ForceProcess settings are not applied.
That would be a difference. But, I do not know how are you reproducing the problem exactly.

If you need me to test this, please provide all of the required info so that I can set up a VM and test it:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19746

Regards,
Barb.-

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:19 am

Hi Barb

I have further narrowed it down to it being force-starting Stricky Password that prevents it from working with Firefox; force-start Firefox, having manually sandboxed SP, and it works ok.

As for reproducing the problem, set SP and Firefox to start forced in a sandbox that has drop-rights enabled. It may be the same if forced without drop-rights but my system is not set up that way.

Windows 10 x64 v1803 b17134.345
SB 5.27.1
Firefox 63.0 x64
StickyPassword_rev820206_7950.exe (the SP template is enabled)
AVG Internet Security 18.7.3069
My sandboxie.ini file is attached - please remove when you have downloaded it
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by badbrain » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:34 am

henryg wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:19 am
I have further narrowed it down to it being force-starting Stricky Password that prevents it from working with Firefox; force-start Firefox, having manually sandboxed SP, and it works ok.

As for reproducing the problem, set SP and Firefox to start forced in a sandbox that has drop-rights enabled. It may be the same if forced without drop-rights but my system is not set up that way.
I can't reproduce that. If I try to start StickyPassword sandboxed manually, then it doesn't start and Sandboxie creates one instance of SbieSvc.exe after the other - this seems to be endless. I closed everything inside the sandbox, when almost 20 instances of SbieSvc.exe have been created.

Then I've created a portable version of StickyPassword in another partition and started it (outside Sandboxie). The result is, that the portable version works with the sandboxed Firefox without any problem. :?

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:55 am

badbrain wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:34 am
Then I've created a portable version of StickyPassword in another partition and started it (outside Sandboxie). The result is, that the portable version works with the sandboxed Firefox without any problem. :?
At the moment, for me, SP doesn't work from outside a sandbox with Firefox sandboxed; although it has certainly done so in the past. It may be down to Firefox updates, but its behaviour is unpredictable and I have never been able to pin down what is going on. After a while it has tended to settle down and work again.
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:57 am

Here's a link to 8.2.0.206_7950

http://download.stickypassword.com/debu ... 6_7950.exe

as it's now public on the SP Forum.
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by badbrain » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:54 am

henryg wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:57 am
Here's a link to 8.2.0.206_7950

http://download.stickypassword.com/debu ... 6_7950.exe

as it's now public on the SP Forum.
I've already tried this version yesterday, but there was the same problem with it.

So...Sticky Password doesn't give the option to change the installation path during the installation and now, after I've recognized, that the portable version created with StickyPassword itself in another partition works fine, I moved the installation folder of StickyPassword to another partition (i usually install my apps in another partition and i don't like it, when a software doesn't give the option) and changed the path in the registry, too. Everything is working as it should now.

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by badbrain » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:41 am

Tried it with another windows-installation [1903 (19H1)Insider Build 18262] and first, the same issue occured, but after starting StickyPassword from another than the windows (c:\) partition, everything worked fine -> Firefox sandboxed/StickyPassword outside

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:53 am

This gets weirder and weirder. If I start SP sandboxed without forcing it, as I said, it works with Firefox. But I have now discovered that the same sandboxed instance of SP works with Firefox when Firefox IS NOT sandboxed. It used to be the other way around, albeit only from time to time, and I have never seen this behaviour before.

[edit] Disabling the SP template stops sandboxed SP working with non-sandboxed Firefox, but it continues to work with sandboxed Firefox; providing not forced as before.

All settings the same other than Firefox is now v64.0b3
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by badbrain » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:01 am

Would you please try and confirm this:

- enable the StickyPassword template for the Firefox-box and set the option for not showning "#.....#" to on
- copy your StickyPassword installation folder to another partition
- now start Firefox (forced sandboxed) and StickyPassword unsandboxed from the copied folder

Does this work for you?

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:49 am

Sorry, doesn't work for me. Time for the professionals to do their stuff :wink:
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by badbrain » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:43 pm

henryg wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:49 am
Sorry, doesn't work for me.
I've tried this on three different machines now and it worked everytime, so there must be other problems with your software-configuration, i think...and please let us stay with Firefox 63 now.

@Barb
Would you please take a look on this again?

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:08 am

I've sorted a workaround by starting SP from a shortcut into my specified sandbox, template not enabled, and as that is not forcing it works! So it seems we have both found a solution, but I do hope it can be sorted properly

I've moved on from Firefox 63 and see no reason to return to it given my solution works for me.
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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by henryg » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:14 am

Barb

Is this still being looked at? Would especially like to know if you can replicate my "force" problem.
Henry

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Re: Sticky Password 8.2.0.206

Post by Barb@Invincea » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:18 am

All,

I replied before that I was able to repro, and provided a workaround.
Other than that, I don't have any updates.

Please keep in mind that our current focus is this:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24980
and that we are working on some major issues with Windows 10 1809. So, not sure we will have an update for this thread any time soon.

Regards,
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