OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by X-Gamer » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:15 pm

Syrinx wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:38 pm
X-Gamer wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:14 pm
But as said also without Aster Installed only 1 User and Sandboxie get this BSOD with OpenWinClass *
Ah I must have missed that when skimming over all the posts. I downloaded and tried it in a VM but it seems Aster has the same issue with the workspace in a VM as it does with stuff in Sandboxie and I can't even see when I move the mouse on an unsandboxed workspace started by aster after a reboot. Doesn't look like I'm gonna get very far testing or reproducing this in a simple VM so I doubt I end up being much help:-/

I was able to keyboard test one program with the resource access monitor open and only saw two things to attempt opening instead of * but as my mouse wasn't working anyway I couldn't tell if it would change anything.
Instead of
OpenWinClass=*

Would you be willing to see if adding these two instead changes anything and gets the mouse working? I'd be shocked if it actually did but no harm at least testing it I guess?
OpenWinClass=OLLYDBG
OpenWinClass=WinDbgFrameClass

I see mouse in aster or sandboxie as said cannot control windows outside sandboxie when in tightvnc or steam inhome streaming because openwinclass ' make BSOD.

Also have BSOD without Aster installed in sandboxie with Openwinclass *


I think you must set in VM at Aster Workstation at the Monitor display right click and set Hardware Cursor think its a VM problem.

Thanks tested with
OpenWinClass=OLLYDBG
OpenWinClass=WinDbgFrameClass

But still nothing is controllable only the seam window that is sandboxed.


Also think OpenWinClass * is needed because if user opens something from windows taskbar or startmenu that is not sandboxed then its or so :(

You also know no alternative then Sandboxie todo that what i do and worked always good since BSODs or how do find why OpenWinClass * makes the BSODs with APC_INDEX_MISSMATCH ?

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by X-Gamer » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:27 pm

Also with Screen Reader Settings for Accessibility it sets OpenWinClass * i get no BSOD but also STeam not works right and hangs etc :/

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by X-Gamer » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:04 pm

I tryed much things but nothing then OpenWinClass * works to get access outside of sandboxie to all apps and windows desktop etc.

And also found no other alternative to sandbxoie todo what i need :(

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by X-Gamer » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:52 pm

Are you still here ?

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by Syrinx » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:34 am

Sadly I'm currently out of ideas and my kid said you were a lost cause so I'm inclined to believe that. Who knows how things go later on but for now not all that promising.
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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by X-Gamer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm

Syrinx wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:34 am
Sadly I'm currently out of ideas and my kid said you were a lost cause so I'm inclined to believe that. Who knows how things go later on but for now not all that promising.
LOL :(

There must be a way to find out why Sandboxie makes BSODS at OpenWinClass * only at Windows 10 CU .

Or a way todo what i need without OpenWinClass * or not ?

Otherwise i need find better software :/

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18 also at 5.21.2

Post by X-Gamer » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:23 pm

Hello

The Problem with APC INDEX MISSMATCH still exists with OpenWInClass=* how can i find why because at friend he has now problems with it.

Also now at 5.21.2


Can anyone help or help how i can use all good withoput needing OpenWinClass=*


Thanks



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Ace Online in Sandboxie causes BSOD after Win 10 Creators Update

Post by Kevin87 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:36 pm

Hello all,

I wish to report an issue with the game "Ace Online", hosted by Subagames. It ran well in Sandboxie 5.20 in Windows 10 before the Creators Update.

Suddenly, after upgrading to the Windows 10 Creators Update, Windows crashes with a bsod when Ace Online is started within Sandboxie. This happens on all pc's and laptops I own that run the Windows 10 Creators Update. It doesn't seem to matter if it's Windows 10 Home or Pro.

What additional information do you require? Maybe it’s an idea to check out the game yourself on https://ace.subagames.com/index.aspx

In case you wish to try the game yourself to figure out what is causing this issue, some steps need to be performed when creating a sandbox to run the game. These settings are confirmed to work in Windows 7 and Windows 10 (before the Creators update):

Create a new sandbox – Copy settings from “none”
Set the following sandbox settings:
  • Restrictions- drop rights- checkbox has to be unchecked.
  • Resource access – file access – full access – add – c:\Suba Games\ - apply. (or whatever location you install the game to)
  • Resource access – window access – add - * - ok – apply

Note: Once you are logged in into the game, the game (whether in Sandboxie or not) can crash if admin rights are asked by another program. This is independent on the usage of Sandboxie or any version of Windows and does not happen all the time. I assume this is completely unrelated.

If you require more information, I'm happy to provide this.

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by Barb@Invincea » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:42 pm

Hello Kevin87,

We are aware that using "OpenWinClass=* " triggers a Blue Screen when using Windows 10 CU .
Why do you need to use that option?

Please re-try after removing:
Resource access – window access – add - * - ok – apply

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Re: OpenWinClass=* - Bluescreens since Version 5.18

Post by Barb@Invincea » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:04 pm

All,

I have been trying to repro this issue on Windows 10 x 64 FCU without success.
Are you still seeing the problem with the latest Windows update + Sbie 5.23.1 ?

Regards,
Barb.-

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